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So. I was just rereading a few fics, namely![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
thistlerose's Midnight Conversation #6, copperbadge's Alive, lupercali's Seven Things That Didn't Happen At Hogwarts On Valentine's Day, Or Maybe They Did and a myriad of other fics, and I was thinking, and I noticed something that they all have in common.
They all have Sirius more in love with Remus than Remus is with Sirius.
Like in "Alive", Sam writes, "Remus had never felt so entirely tied up in a single person, the way Sirius had been. He had loved Sirius, of course he had loved Sirius, but his happiness and his life had not been dependent on Sirius loving him."
MC#6 is pretty much about how Sirius loves Remus more than Remus loves him (at that time).
Seventh year of "Seven Things..." also seems to be pretty much that, as is Pru's Levityverse.
I've also gotten that same impression from a few ofmusesfool's fics.
Four of the most highly-respected authors (at least according to me) in the R/S subfandom have the same sort of theme on how the R/S relationship works. And, I was just wondering why. Is it because Sirius is passionate and Remus is controlled? Something along those lines?
All opinions are very much appreciated. Especially if they turn into debates :).
So. I was just rereading a few fics, namely
thistlerose's Midnight Conversation #6, copperbadge's Alive, lupercali's Seven Things That Didn't Happen At Hogwarts On Valentine's Day, Or Maybe They Did and a myriad of other fics, and I was thinking, and I noticed something that they all have in common.They all have Sirius more in love with Remus than Remus is with Sirius.
Like in "Alive", Sam writes, "Remus had never felt so entirely tied up in a single person, the way Sirius had been. He had loved Sirius, of course he had loved Sirius, but his happiness and his life had not been dependent on Sirius loving him."
MC#6 is pretty much about how Sirius loves Remus more than Remus loves him (at that time).
Seventh year of "Seven Things..." also seems to be pretty much that, as is Pru's Levityverse.
I've also gotten that same impression from a few of
musesfool's fics.Four of the most highly-respected authors (at least according to me) in the R/S subfandom have the same sort of theme on how the R/S relationship works. And, I was just wondering why. Is it because Sirius is passionate and Remus is controlled? Something along those lines?
All opinions are very much appreciated. Especially if they turn into debates :).
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Date: 2004-04-25 02:20 pm (UTC)First off, I have to say I don't agree with that common 'stereotype' of their relationship. I can see where it comes from, but I have reasons to believe it wouldn't be that way. I'll attempt to separate out my trains of thought so I can remember all of what I wrote before.
1) Their personalities. As you commented above, Sirius is generally seen as more outspoken and passionate, while Remus is more reserved and keeps more to himself. While these characterisations are basically true, for some reason many people like to transfer these personalities and apply them to their attitudes towards love. This means that inevitably Sirius, 'the more passionate one' gets to be the one who is more in love. Not necessarily a logical correlation, but one where it's easy to see where it came from.
2) Reality. In general, feelings between couples are rarely exactly mutual. There's nearly always one who loves a little more, or is a little more forgiving, or is prepared to do some things for the sake of the relationship that the other is not. That's not to say that either values the relationship less; just that it's illogical to expect both people to feel exactly the same, and love exactly the same 'amount'. It's good that this aspect is often explored in R/S fics, I just think it's sometimes taken a little too far, or that the difference in feelings is slightly too much. Also, there's the fact that it always seems to be Sirius who's more 'in love', for reasons stated above.
3)My view: that Remus would be the one who loves Sirius more. So, if there was an imbalance in their relationship, I always saw it as Remus being the more devoted, so to speak. Reasoning? Well, Remus has had to cope with a lot of disappointment and loss in relation to Sirius (namely the Prank and Azkaban) and yet has forgiven him, seemingly unconditionally. It takes a lot of love and, well, devotion to do something like that.
Remus' past: As a child, he was an outcast and ostracised for being a werewolf - he clearly never had friends until he met the marauders at school. As we know from JKR, he valued his friends more than anything, thus not even wanting to stand up to them so he could perform his Prefect duties. Remus loved having friends he could trust - more than anything. So, when he got involved with Sirius, it seems logical that it would have been a desperate, deep love. I can see him becoming emotionally dependant on Sirius; his whole life he probably never expected to be able to have feelings (or a relationship) like this, and now his feelings are being returned by someone he trusts most. So, IMO, if either of them felt 'more love' for the other, it was Remus.
Of course, the Prank would change that, and no doubt severely shake Remus' trust in Sirius... and yet he obviously forgave him.
I can't even remember why I rambled off on a slight tangent... but there's my thoughts. :)