Dec. 17th, 2004

2004 meme

Dec. 17th, 2004 07:29 pm
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Gacked from [livejournal.com profile] thistlerose and [livejournal.com profile] many_miles_away (both of whom I love for their answers to #12. *g*)

2004 in review )


Also, I was looking at Puget Sound's course of study and core requirements, and there's a math requirement. I hate math, but this requirement is not bad, because Puget Sound counts COMPUTER COURSES TOWARDS MATH CREDIT!

I am falling more and more in love with this school. :D:D:D
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So I watched Boondock Saints and started feeling the Connor/Murphy love.

This keeps making me feel guilty, as Connor and Murphy are twins (fraternal!) and I am a twin (fraternal!) and thinking about twincest tends to make me wibble.

And then I started thinking about why. Pretty much every single twin I personally know on the internet says they are squicked by twincest, or at least dislike it. I'm not an exception. But people who have siblings enjoy (if that's the right word for it; I can't think of another more appropriate one right now) incest, both het and slash--I have sisters, and I can take reading Bellatrix/Narcissa or something like that (mainly because they're Blacks and Blacks are Messed Up. Though I've read Bill/Charlie, courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] lea_ndra, and liked that too, but it had R/S as the other main pairing).

So I was thinking, people with brothers and sisters can enjoy sibling incest, so what is it about twincest that makes twins shudder? It is another kind of sibling incest, after all.

I mean, I know why I dislike it. I hear/read the word "twin" and I think of mine, and you know, I really just don't want to think of her in a sexual context, especially not in a sexual context with her twin, meaning me. Me/my twin = OH MY GOD NO. Though it's the same there with people who like sibling incest--liking that doesn't mean they want to shag their brothers/sisters.

Maybe it's the closeness issue? One of the most common thoughts about twins is that they're closer than regular siblings. I don't know how true that is--it's probably not with me and mine (well, I'm closer to her than to my other sister, but my other sister is a stereotypical blonde airhead jock who doesn't like to read), but maybe that's just because we're fraternal? According to my Biology teacher back in freshman year, I'm supposed to be as genetically similar to my twin as to my little sister, which is easy to believe, even just by looking at us. But we're close, I guess--we've finished each other's sentences, and known what the other was thinking, even if it was something completely random; that, however, I think is more just a product of having known each other for seventeen years now, having gone to school together and had the same friends and hung out together. But are we closer than Random Sibling A and Random Sibling B, just by virtue of being twins? Probably not.

Though I think the main issue, with me, sort of ties in with both of those reasons. I've often been told that I'm special for having a twin, I guess because twins are somewhat rare, and dude, everyone likes being told that they're special, don't they? So many people have siblings, but most of those don't have twins. And so I considered my relationship with my twin to be special, and by extension all twin relationships as special, and so twincest seems more a perversion of that special relationship than regular incest is of a regular sibling relationship. That issue isn't very flattering to me, as it is a sort of prejudice and arrogance, I suppose, but it's the best I can do in articulating my feelings about twincest. *shrugs*

But even after thinking all that, I still find myself attracted to the Connor/Murphy pairing, and thinking to myself, "Why am I liking this? I don't like twincest!"

Part of that answer is, of course, the dynamic between Connor and Murphy themselves; their interaction in the movie can easily lend itself to the belief that they're together that way. It's not the first time I've read twincest; for those of you who know Fushigi Yuugi, I've read a Suboshi/Amiboshi fic before (though only because it was a minor pairing in a Nuriko/Hotohori fic I was reading), and I kept skipping over any S/A parts, but probably the only thing that made me even tolerate it instead of hitting the back button was because of the dynamic between Suboshi and Amiboshi in the anime.

It's probably why I shudder when I think of Fred/George and Padma/Parvati, for my primary fandom of Harry Potter. The dynamic between each of those two sets of twins does not show me that they might want to be in a twincestuous relationship, and so my twin prejudice/arrogance comes to the fore and wibbles at me and says twins don't think of each other that way! And therefore, because of that reaction to most twincest, my brain keeps telling me that reading other twincest, like Connor/Murphy or Suboshi/Amiboshi, should make me feel really guilty.

Anyway, if you've made it this far past my ramble, I've got a couple questions.

First of all, do you have a twin? If so, how do you feel about twincest? Twincest in comparison with incest? People without twins are welcome to answer that as well.

Also, if you do like/enjoy/whatever twincest, why?

It's 11:30 now and I should go to bed, as I'm tired. Good night. :)

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