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[rynne]

It seems everyone I've talked to about this movie has strong opinions about it; either they love it or they hate it. I wouldn't say I loved it, but I did really, really like it--it was a bloody long movie, but it didn't really seem that way, unlike Dead Man's Chest.

Frankly, one of the things that made that movie for me was the resolution of Will and Elizabeth's relationship--I love what happened to Will. Love it. I've always been sorta lukewarm about this pairing, and I don't think I'm going to really be a shipper, but I love the way it was in this movie. The betrayals and the distrust and all the problems they had, and how that suddenly becomes unimportant in the face of imminent death so they decide to get married in the middle of the goddamn battle, and then Will having to become Captain of the Flying Dutchman.... Their relationship was messy, and fierce, and they're never going to have enough time to work out all the issues they have, and contrary to my typical love of happily-ever-after pairings, I was really happy with the way W/E turned out. They were pretty much an ordinary couple in Curse of the Black Pearl, then they were confusing in Dead Man's Chest, but At World's End has totally made them interesting.

I so want fanfic dealing with how they only get to see each other one day every ten years, and I especially want fic about when Elizabeth dies and Will has to ferry her. Really, I just want good post-AWE fic; I took temporary leave of my sense and looked in ff.net, and completely aside from the usual grammar issues--why the hell are there so many fics about freeing Will from the Flying Dutchman? The W/E relationship is so much more interesting because of that.

I might have more to say about this movie later, but I think I'll shut up about it for now. And I still want good fic.

I also got the first DVD of Sports Night from Netflix, and I liked it. It's a good show, but unless it becomes amazing later on, I think it'll be a casual like.

Comments

[exiled-mind.livejournal.com]

Out of curiosity, did you stay past the ending credits for the last bit?

[rynne.livejournal.com]

I did, yes. Though I don't know what the big deal was--people were telling me I needed to stay and watch that scene because it was important and stuff, but I thought it was something...fairly easy to extrapolate, not surprising at all.

[tinitinytina.livejournal.com]

Waaaaaaaait. So they do end up together but they only get to see each other once every ten years?

[rynne.livejournal.com]

I take it you haven't seen the movie yet? Because it's explained there. You want me to spoil you further?

[tinitinytina.livejournal.com]

Nope I haven't seen, yes please spoil! :D

[rynne.livejournal.com]

Dunno how much you remember about Davy Jones's backstory from Dead Man's Chest--I didn't remember much of anything, but thankfully At World's End goes into it--but basically, Davy Jones and the goddess Calypso fell in love with each other, and Calypso made Davy immortal, on the conditions that he would use the ship the Flying Dutchman to ferry dead souls to the hereafter, and that he would have one day every ten years to spend with her in the land of the living. As part of the whole immortal thing, his heart was cut out and placed in a chest, and that heart was his only vulnerability. But the thing is, the Flying Dutchman must have a Captain, so whoever kills Davy Jones has to take his place. During the big climax of the movie, Davy stabbed Will in the heart, right in front of Elizabeth, and Will would have died if Jack hadn't helped him stab Davy's heart. So Will survived, but he had to become Captain of the Flying Dutchman, which meant taking on all the conditions of his immortality, including only being able to spend one day every ten years with the woman he loves.

It's much more poignant in the movie. You really should see it. :p

[tinitinytina.livejournal.com]

Oh I will! I'm waiting to get home from school so I can watch it with my boy. :) But yes, very poignant and adds depth to the movie. :)

[gysecune.livejournal.com]

I have to agree with you on Will and Elizabeth's relationship. I was never really that interested in it until this movie, and that wedding was AMAZING. That is the best wedding scene I have ever seen in a movie.

[malabud.livejournal.com]

So this comment is two weeks late, but anyway...

Apparently, the screenwriters were upset that certain crucial bits of dialogue were left out, and this crucial information changes the meaning of the ending entirely. If you don't want to know, don't finish reading this comment.










Is that enough space?

There are two curses. The original one is that the Captain of the Flying Dutchman has to sail for ten years, ferrying souls to the afterlife. Then he gets one day on dry land to find his true love. If she is waiting for him, he is released from being captain and can go be with her and live a normal life.

However, Davy Jones's true love (Calypso) was not waiting for him at the end of his first ten years, so he had to keep captaining the Flying Dutchman. He stopped doing his job and corrupted his purpose by conscripting departing souls instead of ferrying them to the other side, so Calypso made him and his crew all fishy. Davy Jones added to the Flying Dutchman captain's curse by cutting out his heart. Now, whoever is captain must have his heart cut out, but that was not part of the original curse. Jones also retaliated against Calypso by telling the Brethren Court how to imprison her in human form.

Thus, Will had to have his heart cut out because of Davy Jones, but the original curse took hold of him, not the one that held Jones. After ten years, his true love was waiting for him, so he could go and be with her and not return to the ship. Someone else with a touch of destiny upon him would become captain and sail for the next ten years.

I can provide links detailing the above if you like. I hope I haven't spoiled your enjoyment of the movie. *g*